Comments on: 7 ways to guarantee the failure of your music career http://www.takingyourmusiconline.com/7-ways-to-guarantee-the-failure-of-your-music-career/ Giving independent musicians the skills to succeed online Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:56:52 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: alice hive http://www.takingyourmusiconline.com/7-ways-to-guarantee-the-failure-of-your-music-career/comment-page-1/#comment-178 alice hive Thu, 28 May 2009 20:42:45 +0000 http://www.takingyourmusiconline.com/?p=644#comment-178 Can't count how often I've already been confronted with people who think like they do in point 1. Can’t count how often I’ve already been confronted with people who think like they do in point 1.

]]> By: fullbirdmusic http://www.takingyourmusiconline.com/7-ways-to-guarantee-the-failure-of-your-music-career/comment-page-1/#comment-174 fullbirdmusic Sun, 24 May 2009 06:52:58 +0000 http://www.takingyourmusiconline.com/?p=644#comment-174 This list is so true! I can't believe how many artists don't invest in themselves and think that they'll be discoverd. By whom? Who's looking in those dive bars and myspace? I think the whole thing of being discovered is out of date and a bit of a fairy tale. When was the last time it happened? My buddy says he's always surprised by how much I can do with my music in one sitting or one day and I tell him that if I believe in what I'm doing and have a plan, there's nothing to it! It doesn't seem like work to me, so even if I've worked the whole day, I don't mind doing it. After all, I'm trying to make money! Aren't we all? Well, those described in this list just make it easier for the rest of us! Thanks again for sharing! Wes Costello fullbirdmusic.com This list is so true! I can’t believe how many artists don’t invest in themselves and think that they’ll be discoverd. By whom? Who’s looking in those dive bars and myspace?

I think the whole thing of being discovered is out of date and a bit of a fairy tale. When was the last time it happened?

My buddy says he’s always surprised by how much I can do with my music in one sitting or one day and I tell him that if I believe in what I’m doing and have a plan, there’s nothing to it! It doesn’t seem like work to me, so even if I’ve worked the whole day, I don’t mind doing it.

After all, I’m trying to make money! Aren’t we all? Well, those described in this list just make it easier for the rest of us!

Thanks again for sharing!
Wes Costello
fullbirdmusic.com

]]> By: fullbirdmusic http://www.takingyourmusiconline.com/7-ways-to-guarantee-the-failure-of-your-music-career/comment-page-1/#comment-173 fullbirdmusic Sun, 24 May 2009 06:46:34 +0000 http://www.takingyourmusiconline.com/?p=644#comment-173 This list is so true. Why do so many artists insist on only using myspace as a platform? I don't even use myspace anymore for anything of value! The importance of getting your own domain for a web presense cannot be underestimated! My buddy always tells me that he's surprised every day about how much I get done with my music with writing songs, marketing, or just getting in touch with people who might help me with my endeavor and I always ask why he's surprised. He says because when he's online, he meanders from one thing to another and can't get anything done. That's where planning comes in, for sure! I think the "discover" model of music is a thing of the past and is now somewhat of a fairy tale. When was the last time this happened? I can't believe that some artists refuse to pay for music, software, or anything else to help themselves. Guess that just means more fans (read: customers) for me. Thanks for sharing this list! This list is so true. Why do so many artists insist on only using myspace as a platform? I don’t even use myspace anymore for anything of value! The importance of getting your own domain for a web presense cannot be underestimated!

My buddy always tells me that he’s surprised every day about how much I get done with my music with writing songs, marketing, or just getting in touch with people who might help me with my endeavor and I always ask why he’s surprised. He says because when he’s online, he meanders from one thing to another and can’t get anything done. That’s where planning comes in, for sure!

I think the “discover” model of music is a thing of the past and is now somewhat of a fairy tale. When was the last time this happened? I can’t believe that some artists refuse to pay for music, software, or anything else to help themselves. Guess that just means more fans (read: customers) for me.

Thanks for sharing this list!

]]> By: Musician's resource that tells it like it is for aspiring artists | Make It In Music http://www.takingyourmusiconline.com/7-ways-to-guarantee-the-failure-of-your-music-career/comment-page-1/#comment-171 Musician's resource that tells it like it is for aspiring artists | Make It In Music Fri, 22 May 2009 18:19:13 +0000 http://www.takingyourmusiconline.com/?p=644#comment-171 [...] This one from Bob Baker on how we need to stay on top of and maintain our actions that bring us success and satisfaction ‘Groundhog Day Music Success’ and this one about how musicians will wilfully disregard essential advice  that could make the difference to their career that they are desperately looking for, by Mark Gibson - ‘Don’t disregard this advice!’ [...] [...] This one from Bob Baker on how we need to stay on top of and maintain our actions that bring us success and satisfaction ‘Groundhog Day Music Success’ and this one about how musicians will wilfully disregard essential advice  that could make the difference to their career that they are desperately looking for, by Mark Gibson – ‘Don’t disregard this advice!’ [...]

]]> By: David Wiebe http://www.takingyourmusiconline.com/7-ways-to-guarantee-the-failure-of-your-music-career/comment-page-1/#comment-167 David Wiebe Fri, 20 Mar 2009 03:14:57 +0000 http://www.takingyourmusiconline.com/?p=644#comment-167 No. 2 can be a particularly dangerous one. Last year I decided to get rid of everything on my Hard Drive that I hadn't paid for. As an artist, I could no longer justify it. I saw it as a step in the right direction, to "get back in the black" with the Universe, so to speak. No. 2 can be a particularly dangerous one. Last year I decided to get rid of everything on my Hard Drive that I hadn’t paid for. As an artist, I could no longer justify it. I saw it as a step in the right direction, to “get back in the black” with the Universe, so to speak.

]]> By: Steve Miller http://www.takingyourmusiconline.com/7-ways-to-guarantee-the-failure-of-your-music-career/comment-page-1/#comment-162 Steve Miller Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:11:14 +0000 http://www.takingyourmusiconline.com/?p=644#comment-162 I certainly agree with the arguments set forth in "7 ways to guarantee the failure of your music career". To a business minded person it's almost common sense, most band members are of course not businessmen. My question is this. Can a fledgling band have any reasonable expectations of making a living at what they love to do most or should the best advice be to get a day job. I'm wondering if anybody has ever done a survey to obtain some statistics on bands and how much money they're making (if any) and what is the percentage of them are making reasonable wages. I read a lot of opinions about how to make money, or to the effect that the music business in in the gutter and about the best option is to play small private gigs for you friends, a depressing thought indeed. What I am saying is can anyone actually back up their opinion with some facts. If there were such a study I think it would be revealing if it also included an analysis of how the more successful bands were doing to promote themselves and if there was any commonality. I certainly agree with the arguments set forth in “7 ways to guarantee the failure of your music career”. To a business minded person it’s almost common sense, most band members are of course not businessmen. My question is this. Can a fledgling band have any reasonable expectations of making a living at what they love to do most or should the best advice be to get a day job. I’m wondering if anybody has ever done a survey to obtain some statistics on bands and how much money they’re making (if any) and what is the percentage of them are making reasonable wages. I read a lot of opinions about how to make money, or to the effect that the music business in in the gutter and about the best option is to play small private gigs for you friends, a depressing thought indeed. What I am saying is can anyone actually back up their opinion with some facts. If there were such a study I think it would be revealing if it also included an analysis of how the more successful bands were doing to promote themselves and if there was any commonality.

]]> By: Jeffrey Siegfried http://www.takingyourmusiconline.com/7-ways-to-guarantee-the-failure-of-your-music-career/comment-page-1/#comment-161 Jeffrey Siegfried Mon, 09 Mar 2009 13:53:02 +0000 http://www.takingyourmusiconline.com/?p=644#comment-161 Sadly, the guys who sit back and wait to be discovered FAR outnumber those of us who don't. Actually ... now that I think about it. It only sad for THEM. Heh ... I get the best end of that deal! Keep up the good work MarK! Sadly, the guys who sit back and wait to be discovered FAR outnumber those of us who don’t.

Actually … now that I think about it. It only sad for THEM. Heh … I get the best end of that deal!

Keep up the good work MarK!

]]> By: Mark Gibson http://www.takingyourmusiconline.com/7-ways-to-guarantee-the-failure-of-your-music-career/comment-page-1/#comment-160 Mark Gibson Sat, 07 Mar 2009 22:10:48 +0000 http://www.takingyourmusiconline.com/?p=644#comment-160 Sorry to upset you Jeffrey but your business plan has been around for a long time now ;) I've been around the music business long enough to know exactly how frustrating and how unfair it can be. I did sound for a band just yesterday who absolutely ROCK yet they're only achieving "moderate" success. These guys actually DO alot of the things necessary to succeed. They write good songs, they play them well, they promote themselves pretty well and they've invested in their own band by paying for good quality recordings and even a few film clips. Still they find it hard. BUT... imagine how tough things would be for them if they were sitting back with only a myspace page waiting to be "discovered". No-one expects it to be easy but I can't help recalling an old saying that goes "the harder I work, the luckier I get". Sorry to upset you Jeffrey but your business plan has been around for a long time now ;)

I’ve been around the music business long enough to know exactly how frustrating and how unfair it can be. I did sound for a band just yesterday who absolutely ROCK yet they’re only achieving “moderate” success. These guys actually DO alot of the things necessary to succeed. They write good songs, they play them well, they promote themselves pretty well and they’ve invested in their own band by paying for good quality recordings and even a few film clips. Still they find it hard. BUT… imagine how tough things would be for them if they were sitting back with only a myspace page waiting to be “discovered”.

No-one expects it to be easy but I can’t help recalling an old saying that goes “the harder I work, the luckier I get”.

]]> By: Jeffrey Siegfried http://www.takingyourmusiconline.com/7-ways-to-guarantee-the-failure-of-your-music-career/comment-page-1/#comment-159 Jeffrey Siegfried Sat, 07 Mar 2009 03:47:06 +0000 http://www.takingyourmusiconline.com/?p=644#comment-159 Oh ... On MySpace and Facebook: I agree that they're crap, unfortunately they're also the 900 lb. gorilla in the room. You HAVE to use them to a degree. It's HOW you use them that becomes the issue. With some good planning and strategy ... that monkey CAN work for you a little. But again ... it takes that dreaded W word, and who wants to do that?? Oh …

On MySpace and Facebook:

I agree that they’re crap, unfortunately they’re also the 900 lb. gorilla in the room. You HAVE to use them to a degree. It’s HOW you use them that becomes the issue. With some good planning and strategy … that monkey CAN work for you a little. But again … it takes that dreaded W word, and who wants to do that??

]]> By: Jeffrey Siegfried http://www.takingyourmusiconline.com/7-ways-to-guarantee-the-failure-of-your-music-career/comment-page-1/#comment-158 Jeffrey Siegfried Sat, 07 Mar 2009 03:42:39 +0000 http://www.takingyourmusiconline.com/?p=644#comment-158 Hey ... what are you thinking??? I mean come on man, publishing our business model for the whole world to see?? That's just not cool! LMAO! I think you hit this one right on the head mate! EVERY band in the Nashville area seems to think that some record exec is going to walk in the crappy little dive down the street, see them playing for six people (four of whom are band girlfriends, two of those bar regulars too drunk to go home) without being paid for it, and JUMP over the stage monitors to sign them to a label!! Even better, after this dream gig, they think they'll suddenly be rockstars and all work is over! You hit it right on, bad day or not. Hey … what are you thinking???

I mean come on man, publishing our business model for the whole world to see?? That’s just not cool!

LMAO!

I think you hit this one right on the head mate! EVERY band in the Nashville area seems to think that some record exec is going to walk in the crappy little dive down the street, see them playing for six people (four of whom are band girlfriends, two of those bar regulars too drunk to go home) without being paid for it, and JUMP over the stage monitors to sign them to a label!!

Even better, after this dream gig, they think they’ll suddenly be rockstars and all work is over!

You hit it right on, bad day or not.

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